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Boris Johnson will be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom



Michael Barbara

From The New York Times, I'm Michael Barbara. This is "The Daily". After trying and failing to deliver Brexit, British Prime Minister Teresa May will resign this week. Today: The story of how the guy who is supposed to succeed makes Brexit and how Brexit now makes him a premier. This is Monday, July 22nd.

Archived Record (Theresa can)

Soon I will leave the work that it is an honor to keep my life. I do it without any malice, but with immense and lasting gratitude that I had the opportunity to serve the country I love.

Sarah Lila

Sarah, grab me for what happened after this moment, when Therese Mey reports that

Sara Lila

Well, she immediately touched the foolish mess about who will replace. And according to party rules, the next party leader is elected only by members of the Conservative Party. And they are the ones who will choose the next party leader and hence the next UK Prime Minister

Michael Barbara

And who is supposed to be at this stage?

sarah lyall

point, this is a persecution for Boris Johnson.

Michael Barbaro

And Sarah, who is Boris Johnson?

[MUSIC]

He is the Conservative MP for Henley. He is editor of The Spectator. And it seems to be 92 times better than me when it hosts topical news tests. Ladies and gentlemen, Boris Johnson. [CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

sarah lyall

He is a famous politician.

An archived record (Boris Johnson)

This is an ecumenical inter-party endeavor, my friends. Now this is a chance once in your life.

sarah lyall

And it is extremely visible in the way it looks. He has a huge shock of bright white hair.

archived entry

And how long do you cut your own hair? [LAUGHTER]

archived record (boris johnson)

I think that's a low blow.

sarah lyall

He is incredibly articulated. they have no courage to ask questions? Large Spinal Protoplasmic Invertebrates

Sarah Lila

It's incredibly funny. He's incredibly charming.

archived entry

Did you smother cocaine? [LAUGHTER]

archived record (boris johnson)

I tried.

archived entry

Did you try to snore cocaine? a long time ago. [LAUGHTER]

archived entry

Sir, what do you think?

archived record (boris johnson)

I sneaked. archived record (boris johnson)

I sneezed. [LAUGHTER]

sarah lyall

It's also amazing – what the Brits would call champagne. He does not get to the place in time. He is disorganized. He is poorly prepared. He can not remember what he meets and what he has to do.

Archived Recording (Boris Johnson)

We have a fantastic guy called – Oh, he's brilliant. Or, he's a great man – Sterling, Garling, something like that. How is it called? Come on, what's up again? Tell me the name.

archived entry

You must get it. No, seriously, it's not my job to …

Archived entry (Boris Johnson)

Stop sitting there like a big, big, thick Buddha and tell me that person's name.

Michael Barbara

Sarah when I think about the British government, and of course, when I think about the prime minister, I think about a certain level of choked formality and sobriety. How does this person you describe, how does this person become the first head to become a prime minister?

sarah lyall

So there really are two ways to look at it. It's all this. He's clumsy. He's a champagne. But at the same time, many of his moves in his career were pretty much calculated. It is often in the service or attention, or in gaining power.

Michael Barbara

What was his reputation as a journalist?

Sarah Lila

Well, a lot of fun. It's really funny and inaccurate. He would write articles about the European Union where he would exaggerate and reject the European Union like this terrible bureaucracy, trying to take things away from the citizens. It was something that made no sense. It was as if EV. would regulate condoms and make them all universal.

sarah lyall

And he would forbid potato chips with shrimp flavor.

sarah lyall

No, he would not. And the other journalists who covered the same thing would shout from their editors, who would say why do not you cover the same things that Boris is? And he set the tone for the European Union's coverage. It was just wrong. And when they asked him about it, he said, it does not matter what the facts are that you have come into the service of this thesis.

archived entry

[MUSIC]

sarah lyall

And once he was talking about it. He went on a program called Disney Islands in the Desert, a BBC program where you talk about your favorite music.

My rebate this week is a politician and journalist inclined to fall into abrasions, a word that corresponds to his rather Wodehousian image.

sarah lyall

And he was talking about his coverage. And I said – everything I wrote from Brussels I found was something – I just threw those rocks out over the garden wall and had an incredible catastrophe from the greenhouse next door in England. Everything I wrote from Brussels had this incredible, explosive effect on the Tory party. And that really gave me this, I suppose, a pretty strange feeling of strength.

But this made your reputation as a journalist, right?

Sarah Lila

She began to inform the attitude of the Thaurian Party to Europe. And so they met him as someone who first told the truth about Europe.

Michael Barbara

So he found an audience among the British Conservatives?

Michael Barbara

Actually Conservative?

Sara Lila

Yes, he has always been conservative. But the Conservative Party has different tensions. At least at first it seemed that his greatest motivation was to enter Parliament and thus begin building a base for more power. But at this point it was somehow unclear what his beliefs were. And as he said in an interview at that time, when asked what he would do, if there was any principle that would be so important, he said, "I am optimistic, so it is not. I do not seem to have to withdraw. I tend to think of a way of Villageing all together and quietly find a way if I can. "In other words, he would do something that was necessary for some kind of paper on the edges to pass it on to

michael barbaro

Which is another way to say when it comes to his beliefs , they are susceptible.

sarah lyall

Yes. And this is once again illustrated when running for mayor in 2008, as it is afterwards. He positions himself as a liberal, graceful man from the multicultural London. It's a pro-business, but it's for immigrants.

Recorded Record (Boris Johnson)

If you've been here for more than 10 to 12 years, I'm afraid the authorities are no longer pursuing you.

archived entry

So should we have that amnesty?

archived record (boris johnson)

Well, why not be honest about what's going on?

Archived Record

Recorded Record (Boris Johnson)

Yes, Absolutely.

Sara Lila

Like he is the old-fashioned conservative who went to Oxford, he speaks a very sincere accent that should not go well with ordinary people. And ordinary people love him. He would walk through the streets of London, and people would call, Borry.

Archived entry

Boris says what he means and he delivers.

Sarah Lila

There is only one thing in it that makes him a really good candidate. Then he is elected mayor, which is, in fact, an incredible achievement. A Conservative will never be elected in London and he is based solely on personal popularity.

Archived Record (Boris Johnson)

For one minute I do not believe these elections show that London has been turned overnight into a conservative city.

sarah lyall

And then go on with these funny statements. And he showed the world a kind of physical comedy.

Archived Record

Now he went into pretty deep water.

Sara Lial

So he was once in the Thames, doing something and fell into the river.

Archived Record (Speaker 1)

Oh, then really bad.

Archived Recording (Speaker 2)

And this is the best bit. This is the best here. She takes the volunteer with her.

Sara Lila

And then many people saw at the 2012 Olympics he was trying to popularize Britain or promote London or something like that and he got off with that wire And he stuck in a zippered wire, and he had such a wedge.

Archived entry (orator 1)

Hey, Boris, you're going the wrong way.

Archived Record (Speaker 2)

This way. archived record (speaker 1)

Boris, in this way.

Sara Lila

He looked so ridiculous. See his little blue hat. He is wearing the worst approach. Oh, just stopped.

Archived Recording (Boris Johnson)

Well, it goes. Very, very well organized.

Michael Barbara

He is really in a position to smash him.

Michael Barbara

And the crowd beneath him looks like fascinated.

Look at them all who take pictures of him, laughing. It makes people feel good. He really does it

archived record (Boris Johnson)

Can you bring me a rope? [LAUGHTER] Get my rope, ok? [1959005] Sarah Lil

Any other politician, that would be the end to be photographed in this way. But he turned it into a plus. He turned it into virtue, and people thought it was funny. And they thought he was fluffy and sweet. When he was a mayor, for the first time he had so much power, and he was a fantastic figure.

Finally, you brought home a great truth for our country that when we think, there is absolutely nothing that this country can not achieve.

sarah lyall

He was not a man with details. It appeared late. He was poorly prepared. He would not read anything. He did not know about politics. And fortunately, the London mayor is really not that important. He does not bear much responsibility, so he can not confuse him.

Michael Barbara

So Boris Johnson was a constant source of entertainment and controversy.

Sarah Lila

Boris is constantly turning into a problem and constantly finds out

Michael Barbara

And what trouble comes out of him?

Sara Lila

Well, there were a lot of problems with women. He had a child with someone other than his wife while he was a mayor of London, and he had never been able to discuss it publicly. When he was the editor of The Spectator, he had an affair with one of his employees who got pregnant writing about it. At first he denied having had an affair. He lies the journalists who ask. He was lying to the Prime Minister. He is fired from his job. And somehow it came out of it. And it became clear that his mixed, irresistible personality was calculated. And people said – and I saw it too – before going out on television, he would pass his hands through his hair to make it look more uncomfortable as if he could not bother to wipe it. He wants to look like this. And someone recently told this amazing story about how Boris came to talk at a civic meeting or a meeting of an industrial group and arrived five minutes later just before he had to talk. And somehow you got up and looked and said, where I'm talking about, what kind of group this one is, and I told those anecdotes and how he totally pounded the crowd. The crowd thought it was funny. They loved him. And the man was really happy to have taken it out. Until I saw Boris doing the same thing in a very different group a few months later, the same thing. He came late. He said, Where am I? He said the same anecdotes as if he were right on the top of his head.

Michael Barbara

And in fact, it was routine.

Sara Lila

It was a routine. It was a routine comedy designed to popularize this point of view for him like this rude, irresistible man who could pull it out at the last minute. He wants to look like this.

Michael Barbara

So much of this is an act. It's a political theater.

Sarah Lila

That's right. And all this time, when people asked him, did he want to be a prime minister, what would he do next?

Archived entry

Is there a chance to become a prime minister?

Archived Recording (Boris Johnson)

I think this is gone. I have such a chance to reborn as an olive tree. So in the meantime, he quietly consolidates his popularity and prepares in his head some way to challenge Prime Minister David Cameron. He is much more popular than David Cameron, though he is just a master. in this moment. And the question is how will he get there? What will he do? Finally, in 2016, he sees a chance.

Michael Barbara

And what is that chance?

Sara Lila

Chance is Brexit.

Michael Barbara

I'm right back. So Sarah, take us there where we stopped. This is 2016 and you said that Boris Johnson sees his chance to become prime minister. What is happening at this point?

Archived Recording (David Cameron)

We are approaching one of the biggest decisions that this country will face in our lives, whether to stay in a reformed European Union or to leave.

Leal

Then Prime Minister David Cameron called the referendum, known as Brexit, whether Britain would leave the European Union.

Archived Recording (David Cameron)

The choice goes to the heart of the type of country we want to be and the future we want for our children.

Sara Lila

He and his government were pro-ruins.

Archived Record (David Cameron)

My recommendation is clear. I think the UK will be safer, stronger and better in the reformed European Union.

Sarah Lial

And everyone assumed that the country feels the same way. And he assumes that all his allies in the Conservative Party will follow along with him –

Michael Barbara

Including Johnson.

Sara Lial

– including Johnson, for the campaign to stay. So Johnson was one of the people who had to support him. And in the last minute –

Archived Recording (Boris Johnson)

We have a chance, in fact, to do something.

sarah lyall

Boris became the head of the exit campaign.

I would like to see a new relationship based on trade, cooperation, but as I said, with much less than this supranational element.

Archived entry

Boris, if this is really what you've been thinking all along, why did you keep your party so long?

Archived Record (Boris)

The truth is that it was agonizingly difficult.

Is it clear at this point whether Boris Johnson really wants to leave the EU?

Sarah lyall

Well, he wrote a famous editorial on the day he made that statement on how he feels on this issue by saying that we have to leave the EU. Britain has to leave the UK. But later it turned out that he wrote an opposite editorial saying the exact opposite. It was only at the last minute that he decided to run with the "we have to leave" version.

Michael Barbara

Offering that the depth of his belief here might have been shallow.

SARAH lyall

Assuming that there was no deep conviction that it was just political calculation and pragmatism. What would be better for Boris?

Michael Barbara

Better for Boris how?

Sara Lila

Better for Boris in that he wants authority. And what he thought would happen, what everyone thought would happen was that Brexit would be denied that they would remain in the European Union but that David Cameron would be so weakened by the whole process , that he would have to step down as prime minister, leaving Boris in place to take over. And then Boris would head the country, not Brexit – because Brexit would have been voted – but he would calm the right wing of the party and thus strengthen his power better than Cameron could ever have. So the whole move of David Cameron to Brexit at the last minute is based on his belief that Brexit will not actually happen until he does.

Here we are. This is statistical, mathematical, that the "Leave" campaign won. And we expect at the end of the 52 percent for Leave, 48 percent remaining. A very unusual moment.

Sara Lila

All were shocked. And if you see, there was an incredible moment when Boris Johnson came out –

archived record (Boris Johnson)

Today, I think we all politicians –

Sara Lyal

– the head of this campaign –

– to give a press conference –

– archive record (boris johnson)

– somehow they са вършили нашата работа за нас.

sarah lyall

– основно да успокои страната, че той контролира, че знае какво прави.

архивиран запис (boris johnson) Те ни наемат да се занимаваме с трудните въпроси. И тази година им дадохме един от най-големите и най-трудни въпроси.

Сара Лила

И той изглежда толкова уплашен.

архивиран запис (Борис Джонсън)

Вярвам, че британците са говорили за демокрация.

sarah lyall

Той прилича на елен, уловен от фаровете. Той няма план. Става ясно, че той няма план.

^ архивиран запис (boris johnson)

Благодаря ви, най-накрая, на всички в Vote Leave за необикновената и позитивна кампания, която сте изпълнили.

Майкъл Барбаро

Тогава какво се случва?

Архивиран запис (Дейвид Камерон)

Най-голямата чест на живота ми беше да служа на страната ни като министър-председател през последните шест години. 19659005] sarah lyall

Така че Дейвид Камерън се отказва. И те са оставени с вакуум на властта. Кой ще бъде следващият премиер? И в този момент изглеждаше, че Борис е влязъл. Определено щеше да го получи. Той бе ръководител на кампанията „Отпуск“.

Майкъл Барбаро

И това е, което винаги е искал.

Сара Лила

Да, всички знаеха кой е той. Той винаги е искал. И той имаше един колега, Майкъл Гоув, който също предаде Камерън и му помогна, помогна на Борис, в кампанията срещу Европа. Идеята беше, че Борис ще бъде министър-председател, а Майкъл Гоув ще бъде, като канцлер на финансите или някаква друга наистина добра работа. И те въобще планираха всичко. И в този момент наистина нямаше други законни кандидати. Мисля, че това беше, например, в петък. Мисля, че имаше шест дни, за да разбера това, или около седмица, за да го разбера. И те водят кампания, а всички харесват какво ще направят? Те трябва да извадят някакъв план. Борис пише тази статия за „Телеграф“, която предполага, че издава своя политически план. Няма наистина план. Всичко е хаотично. Всичко е странно. Всички се страхуват. И тогава, денят преди Борис трябва официално да обяви, че поставя името си като министър-председател –

Архивиран запис (Майкъл Гоув)

Мислех, че е правилно, че след решението, което взеха британските хора миналата седмица –

sarah lyall

– Майкъл Гоув, неговият велик приятел и съюзник през цялата кампания –

архивиран запис (michael gove)

И се надявах, че Борис Джонсън ще бъде човек, който може да гарантира, че правителството следва инструкциите на британския народ и също така изгражда и обединява екип около него, за да води стран ата напред.

sarah lyall

– призовава пресконференция и казва –

архивиран запис (michael) Борис е невероятно и впечатляващо лице. Но през последните няколко дни осъзнах, че Борис не е способен да изгради този екип и да осигури това единство.

sarah lyall

Той не вярва на Борис. Той смята, че Борис би бил лош министър-председател

Майкъл Барбаро

Добър господар

Сара Лила

Той оттегля подкрепата си. Да. И така –

^ архивиран запис (Борис Джонсън)

Е, трябва да ви кажа –

Сара Лила

Всеки, който смяташе, че Борис ще бъде премиер, сега казва, че няма да бъде. А Борис трябва да се оттегли от състезанието.

^ архивиран запис (boris johnson)

Аз заключих, че човек не може да бъда аз.

michael barbaro

Това е доста унизително

sarah lyall

19659002] Наистина унизително и усещаше, че всичко най-накрая го е настигнало. Беше разобличен. В крайна сметка най-накрая се върна, за да го преследват, лъжливият, белязаният, липсващата подготовка, неспособността да се проследят нещата. Той винаги се е измъквал от всичко преди. Той беше като тефлоновия политик.

Майкъл Барбаро

Какво става?

sarah lyall

Те трябва да намерят компромисен кандидат. И всеки е отровен по един или друг начин, така че те се оправят с тази невероятна фигура, Тереза ​​Май.

Архивиран запис (Тереза ​​може)

Току-що съм бил в Бъкингамския дворец, където Нейно Величество Кралицата има ме помоли да сформирам ново правителство.

sarah lyall

И тя се опитва, и тя се опитва, и никой не харесва това, което прави.

Майкъл Барбаро

И къде е Борис през целия този период?

sarah lyall

Е, Борис е опасна фигура. Така се чувстваше, както Камерън и преди, че можеше да го унищожи, като му даде работа в кабинета си. Така че тя го прави външен министър, друга работа, в която не е много добър.

архивиран запис

Или пък се разделят или лъжат, или сте. Четирима посланици казаха, че са го чували няколко пъти. Вие казахте, че това не е правителствена политика, но подкрепяте свободното движение. Това са четири от тях.

^ архивиран запис (boris johnson)

Не, това е пълна глупост. Да. Е, мисля, че те са били погрешно представени. И ако мога да го кажа, не съм напълно убеден, че вашият репортер е говорил с тези посланици. Мисля, че –

Сара Лиал

Той е подготвен. Той е разрошен. Той казва неща, които не са верни.

Майкъл Барбаро

Звучи като Борис Джонсън.

Звучи като Борис Джонсън. Той е Борис като Борис. В крайна сметка той се оттегля от кабинета, заради това, което той казва, че Тереза ​​Мей се справя с преговорите за Brexit

^ архивиран запис (Борис Джонсън)

Всъщност никога не сме превърнали тази визия в преговорна позиция в Брюксел. И никога не сме го превръщали в предложение за преговори.

Сара Лила

Но всъщност това, което той прави, започва да планира следващия си ход.

Архивиран запис

Така че носа го има. Носовете го имат. Отключване!

^ архивиран запис (Борис Джонсън)

Благодаря ви, г-н председател. Г-н председател, Парламентът говори, а правителството ще чуе. Ясно е, че Парламентът не подкрепя тази сделка. Но този вечерен глас ни казва нищо за това, което той подкрепя.

Сара Лила

Тереза ​​Мей е като една от тях – боя се, като бик в бик пръстен, който има много неща, които изпъкват от нея. И тя се олюлява и хората я хвърлят копия. И те се придържат, и тя кърви, а всички я критикуват.

Майкъл Барбаро

Това е толкова графично.

Сара Лила

Съжалявам.

Архивиран запис

Така че носа го има. Носовете го имат.

sarah lyall

И се опитвам отново и никой не харесва нищо, което прави.

архивиран запис (Тереза ​​може)

По реда на процедурата, г-н председател, дълбоко съжалявам за решението

Сара Lyall

И тя става все по-непопулярна.

архивирани запис

Така че NOS го имат. Носовете го имат.

sarah lyall

И в края на краищата, хората са почти подобни, всеки, който влезе, предпочитаме Тереза ​​май.

архивиран запис (Тереза ​​може)

Г-н. Г-н председател, мисля, че трябва да бъде дълбоко съжаление за всеки член на Парламента, че още веднъж не успяхме да подкрепим напускането на Европейския съюз – [SHOUTING] – по правилен начин.

sarah lyall

в момента, в който Тереза ​​Мей съобщава, че се оттегля, Борис Джонсън вижда втория си шанс.

Майкъл Барбаро

Да бъде премиер. Измъкни я и след това може да влезе.

архивиран запис

Доволен съм днес, че съм горд днес, да представя кандидата, когото подкрепям, за да ръководи Консервативната партия и нашия народ, човек, който има вече показа, че може да води този велик глобален град чрез два успешни термина. Дами и господа, Борис Джонсън. [APPLAUSE]

michael barbaro

Сара, трябва ли да разберем, че всичко това се играе точно по начина, по който Борис Джонсън би се надявал, че след като е издигнал Brexit, без значение какво мислите за него, Brexit дойде

Сара Лила

Мисля, че това е правилно. Мисля, че през последните три години след гласуването той трябваше да оглави факта, че това ще се случи. И ако той има убеждение, сега това е неговото убеждение. И това е отровен потир, според мен. Чувствам, че той се е поставил за задача, която е почти невъзможна за изпълнение. И иронично е, че той е придобил тази работа чрез нещо, което е поставил на мястото си и го е направило толкова трудно за себе си. Неговият политически герой е Уинстън Чърчил. Винаги е искал да бъде Уинстън Чърчил. И не виждам как някой би могъл да бъде Уинстън Чърчил през целия процес на Brexit

sarah lyall

Не е като да победим нацистите по време на Втората световна война. Това не е война. Това е много, много сложен развод от едно същество, с което Великобритания е невероятно свързана по начин, който повечето хора не разбират и приемат за даденост. И аз не виждам никой да излиза от него по-добре, отколкото преди.

Майкъл Барбаро

Така че сега този човек, с това, което изглежда няма дълбоко вкоренени политически възгледи, ще управлява Великобритания чрез най-голямото политическо предизвикателство, може би в историята. И това е точно това, което той искаше. Но това е единственият шанс, който ще получи. И той има някакъв сляп оптимизъм, че ще може да измисли нещо, когато си намери работа.

Майкъл Барбаро

Сара, много ви благодаря.

Майкъл Барбаро

И късмет в Лондон.

Сара Лила

Благодаря.

Майкъл Барбаро

Така че ще бъдете там за изборите.

Сара Лиал

Ще бъда там отново, да. And I’ll do what I thought I was supposed to do two years ago, the last time this came around, three years ago.

sarah lyall

I will write this story saying that Boris Johnson has become prime minister. That was supposed to happen before, and maybe it will happen this time.

michael barbaro

The winner of the Conservative Party election for prime minister is expected to be announced tomorrow. We’ll be right back. Here’s what else you need to know today. Internal documents from drug makers, distributors and pharmacies released on Friday reveal a lax approach to tracking suspicious orders of opioids that went on to kill tens of thousands of Americans. A Walgreens in Port Richey, Florida, ordered 3,271 bottles of oxycodone a month, despite a local population of just 2,831. According to the records, the Walgreens employee in charge of flagging such orders cleared them anyway. The records show that companies had little or no oversight in place for flagging suspiciously large orders. One major drug maker gave the job of stopping suspicious orders to sales staff, whose bonuses were tied to those sales. The records are now evidence in a major trial against the companies brought by nearly 2,000 towns and cities devastated by the opioid crisis. That’s it for “The Daily.” I’m Michael Barbaro. See you tomorrow.


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